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Love Is Blind Reunion: Mother Lover
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O H.... I O! We know we said we weren't going to recap this season of Love Is Blind but this reunion was FIRE. It only took ten seasons for Nick "obviously" Lachey to finally get turnt up so we just had to hop on the mics! We leave no conspiracy theory unturned and no cast member unscathed. Grab your golden goblets, and join us for a fun and feisty trip to the pods.
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Well hello Mallory.
SPEAKER_00Hello, Jaclyn.
SPEAKER_01Cheers to you. We have our pink anthropology goblets here in honor of this that we bought together. We bought together. I have to do this like the influencers. Put my hand behind it so it doesn't disappear. Yes.
SPEAKER_00Into the void. Into the fire horse. The fire. Into the fire horse.
SPEAKER_01Mallory's just been taking a sip. Fire horsing her ass off.
SPEAKER_00Titless. As we take a sit.
SPEAKER_01She is homeless and with new home.
SPEAKER_00Homeless and but not toothless. Thank God. Thank god for now. Just homeless, not toothless. Yeah, because we sold our house five days on the market.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_01Good for you.
unknownThanks, man.
SPEAKER_01It was all just an easy experience, not stressful at all. Super fun. Highly recommend.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no stress. More life. Yeah. It was. I'd like to stay here for the record, it was all me. I did every single thing.
SPEAKER_01Of course. That's that's not that goes without saying.
SPEAKER_00I did it all. So I'm gonna take full credit for this.
SPEAKER_01As you should. As you should.
SPEAKER_00My husband will love to hear this, but you know.
SPEAKER_01Well, we're here today to eat our own words and recap the Love is Blind reunion because even though we said we weren't gonna do it, we're not recapping the season. We just can't. It's terrible. This reunion was spectacular.
SPEAKER_00It was so good. It was so good. I loved it. It was everything I wanted and more. Um yeah. So let's just dive right in.
SPEAKER_01Let's dive right in. You know, it was season 10, Love is Blind. Oh H I Oh. Is that right? Ohio.
SPEAKER_02Yikes. No, Nicet Ohio.
SPEAKER_01Home of Nicliche, and he let us know it time and time and again.
SPEAKER_00He uh all he he acts like it's you know a different continent. You know, the way he would be like what, you know, the way boys are in Ohio. It's like though that's the way boys are in the rest of America too. It's not just Ohio where there's a bro code. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Like it was such a Michael Scott moment when he was just like, I don't know about anywhere else, but in Ohio, we have a thing called the Bro Code. It's like, all right, nice. Hey, fucking relax.
SPEAKER_00You invent yeah, Ohio invented not one thing except for the Dunner Maper Company. Was that Ohio? No, that was Pennsylvania. That's Pennsylvania. It wasn't even Ohio. So they have invented that takes it down to zero. I have one, now I have zero. They have invented nothing, certainly not bro code.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god. So good. Nick Lachey was on one finally. Ten seasons on one it has taken us to get these Lacheys on these fucking boys.
SPEAKER_00I know, and all we needed was Ohio.
SPEAKER_01That's it. O-H-I-O.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Nick obviously Lachey got on board. Remember that first he said, I'm Nick. That's the first season. He's like, I'm Nick, obviously.
SPEAKER_01I love it so much.
SPEAKER_03So good.
SPEAKER_01It's so good. So good. Mal and I were just watching on our own. Neither of us took notes. We were going off vibes and middle-aged memory. Mallory was just texting me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01She watched it first and was like, you gotta watch this. We we need to, we need to, we might need to re-rethink about this.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, they started out hot with Amber and Jordan, right? Was that the oh no? The first couple they do is Vic and Christine.
SPEAKER_00The borings.
SPEAKER_01The borings, but I do love them. I think they do too. I think they're they seem like genuinely good people. I love Vic. I love how they had to out the gate start to backpedal and explain why like Netflix didn't send them to Mexico. Netflix didn't get them an apartment.
SPEAKER_00I'm sorry. What? Like between Mexico and Malibu, I'm gonna choose Malibu every time. That you don't go to Malibu because you can't afford to go to Mexico. That's like at least come up with a believable lie, you know?
SPEAKER_01Right. Right. It's like it's not like we couldn't afford Mexico, so we sent you to like Six Flags, New England.
SPEAKER_00Right. We sent you to where I spent the weekend, Bush Gardens to Colonial Williamsburg. We sent you there. Right, right. Yeah. And like we did have some Ohioans there, I'll tell you that.
SPEAKER_01Sure there were. Sure there were. Yeah, and it was like we don't have enough money to send you to Mexico, but we have enough money to fly in every past cast member of the show to put in the audience of this tenth.
SPEAKER_00Spoiler alert, no one cares about nobody gave a shit about broke up. We care about the people that broke up. We don't care about the people that stay together.
SPEAKER_01I get it, Netflix. You're trying to make a franchise, it's your tenth one. You were trying to make it a thing, but I I didn't need to see any of those people. I didn't care.
SPEAKER_02Didn't remember.
SPEAKER_01Didn't remember half of them. Didn't need interviews in between. Just get to the people we watched all season. Those people on the stage. That's all we care about.
SPEAKER_00Stage. Right. Oh my god, the musical number at the end. I was like pass. Get off my screen. Get the fuck out of here.
SPEAKER_01So last season they did that guy, Alex Warren, the ordinary song, Ordinary, which is a hit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. No, it's like But like lightning doesn't strike twice.
SPEAKER_01That's not gonna happen every season.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. It's like that. Remember when American Idol, every time they'd play somebody out, it would be like, and you had a bad day. Like all right, we got it. They had a bad day.
SPEAKER_01Like I mean, rub it in.
SPEAKER_00Let's yeah, yeah. It's like it's you don't have to be quite so literal, you know. Like we got it. We got it. Got it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So we start with Vic and Christine. Love them. Yeah, they try to backpedal everything. I mean, nice try. We get it. You were not going to fall.
SPEAKER_00I I think a bunch of duds who weren't gonna get married. Yeah. So you had to rustle up somebody who was less interesting.
SPEAKER_01Which I appreciate. I'm glad they did it. I'm glad they did it. I feel like there was one producer who after the pots was like, you know, maybe they do, maybe they genuinely do only keep six slots for Mexico. Because it's not just like you're booking six rooms. Like each couple has their own camera crew, sound, producers, like they have their own team. So maybe that is the case. And they were like, you know, we're not gonna follow you guys. But some producer was like, hey, they're a mixed race couple, it could get interesting. Maybe we just send them somewhere and tell them to do their own self-tape, which is what they did.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And like, I mean, they literally only booked them a flight and a room. Like they had no producer, crew, anything there. They just taped an iPhone. So what, maybe a thousand, two thousand dollars to send them to Malibu. And then yeah, I think the season went on. They obviously didn't get the apartments. And just like you said, halfway through they were like, Yeah, we're gonna need you guys.
SPEAKER_00We're gonna need you guys because the rest of these chapronis aren't gonna make it work.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, none of these are making it past the aisle.
SPEAKER_00So no. So you're in. But they seem with them. I do like them. I like them there. I think they're sweet. I like how her, was it her grandmother was with him?
SPEAKER_01Her mother wanted to like bone him.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, which she expects. I don't know. I my going in assumption is always that people over a certain age are just racist. So I was pleasantly surprised to find that wasn't the case, you know. Oh, especially that neck in the woods.
SPEAKER_01She loved him. She wanted some some strange.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. She wanted to be a good one. I mean, I think he was the most attractive guy there.
SPEAKER_01Hands down.
SPEAKER_00Landslide. Yeah. Hands down. Not even close. Not even close. The rest of these guys. They're just migrating towards the center.
SPEAKER_01Jesus. I mean, bottom of the Ohio barrel, besides Vic.
SPEAKER_00Oh, God.
SPEAKER_01Just rough. Rough.
SPEAKER_00That's like, that's the best they could produce. You know, they like, we made Nick and his brother, and then that's it. That's all. We used up all of our lightning. And that's it. Now we're done.
SPEAKER_01Because Vic isn't even Ohio native. He's from Brooklyn. New York? He was from New York. Which makes sense. He's a transplant. Yeah. Ohio made the laches, and then it said, that's it. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00That said, as tire boss. And that was it.
SPEAKER_01Then they puffed out these fucking losers.
SPEAKER_00Ooh, God. One loser after the next, I tell you. But and the self-tanner on the women I was texting you. I yeah, I mean, you've got I don't restraint.
SPEAKER_01We need restraint.
SPEAKER_00We are we are white women. And as you can see by my fire horse background and my lack of color on my face, I'm real white. Like we are white, okay?
SPEAKER_01Besides my rosacea, that's the only color on my skin. I love my rosacea. Love it. It's always my look.
SPEAKER_00But I know my way around a tanner. Okay. I I had a tanning lady who used to spray tan me for$60 a week. She sprayed me every two weeks in the summer in South Carolina. Her name was Nana, and she often felt comfortable commenting on whether I gained or lost weight.
SPEAKER_01Perfect.
SPEAKER_00Keep you in check. I was going to ruin my brother's wedding if my sister-in-law moved forward with a yellow bridesmaid's dress, which she did, and I was spray tan within an inch of my life, you know, and some might consider it blackface today.
SPEAKER_01Probably a questionable level of brown.
SPEAKER_00Right. It was uh so uh not to say I know my way around a self-tanner. I know my way around a spray tan. I would in the summertime I do not leave the house. Now I do. I used to, before I stopped caring, I would never leave the house without something on my legs, at least. Right. But you can't the hands, the hands, ladies, they make mitts. These hands. They make mitts. Yeah, for a reason.
SPEAKER_02These hairs. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You you you to you put on the mitt, you go down, then you take off the mitt, put it on the other hand, and then you go down. Your palms should never ever touch a tanner. Ever.
SPEAKER_01No. Or these in-betweens. You gotta you gotta get the in-between the fingers. It's just there's a method.
SPEAKER_00Just don't do your arms. Go get out in the sun for your arms.
SPEAKER_01You know, like I I just or just get you are on a TV show, you are on a global TV show? Right. Go get a professional do it. Go get a spray tan.
SPEAKER_00100%. And get the spray tan people in Mexico. And I know that because I got sprayed there for the wedding I just mentioned. So that I didn't, quote, ruin my sister-in-law's wedding day. Anyway, we digress. We digress. The point is it's tw it's the year of our Lord 2025 when we're filming this. Figure out the motherfucking self-tanner. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_01Go get a group on and get a spray tan.
SPEAKER_00That's not where we are anymore.
SPEAKER_01No. No. Get a group on, get a spray tan. I swore by no we're still on the topic. I swore by. Did you ever do a tan towel?
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, yeah. I like to tan towel.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I swore. I tan toweled myself the night before my wedding. After I'd gotten a professional spray tan, I said, not enough. I need a little more of a hit. And I was a perfesh at that. I I was, I could do it with my eyes closed. Love to tan towel.
SPEAKER_00Love a tan towel. I'll be honest with you. I actually laid in a tanning bed for my wedding. I said, I know what's wrong, but look, I can't afford to have spray tan on my white dress.
SPEAKER_01Nope.
SPEAKER_00This is my one day. I'm gonna go to the tanning bed, and then that's it.
SPEAKER_01Alright, can I can I also be honest? Yeah. My one Polish friend here, her and her husband go tanning and I'm thinking about it.
SPEAKER_00I'm thinking I love tanning so much. I'm wearing so much. I know it's bad. I know it's bad. And it smells like the devil's asshole when you get out of the public.
SPEAKER_01It feels so good.
SPEAKER_00Can you imagine getting one of those little Playboy Bunny stickers and putting it on your hip right now and just laying in there and baking?
SPEAKER_01I think I might. I think I might. I think I might. Oh my god. Just a little bit. Just a couple minutes.
SPEAKER_00Just a little bit.
SPEAKER_02Just a little color.
SPEAKER_01I just want a little five-minute tan nap. And just to smell the coconut and just be like, you know what?
SPEAKER_00You could turn the bed off, but I'm gonna have a little nap here. I'd like to stay here for upwards of an hour, please.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Me and all these dead skin cells surrounding me would like I just want to see what they would spray it and clean it and it, but it would still be hot, and so it'd like cook the cleaner and just smell like that's that feels good. I wish I wish we could find a healthy way to smoke cigarettes and tan in a tanning bed. Those are my two things.
SPEAKER_01I think they're gonna make a comeback.
SPEAKER_00We've got AI. Figure this out. Get me cigarettes that aren't gonna kill me and tanning bed that's not gonna kill me, or disfigure me, you know?
SPEAKER_01Contribute to society, things we actually need.
SPEAKER_00A hundred percent do you know how much this would fix the like entire problem with America and the world right now? Like this, I would be much I'd be much closer to being okay with the patriarchy if I could have a cigarette and a tanning bed. You know, I might do whatever the fuck they wanted.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm not mad at it. It would loosen me up a bit. It would loosen us up. Which is good for everyone.
SPEAKER_02Just loosen up the buttons, you know.
SPEAKER_01Anyway, we digress again. Christina B. They're so boring.
SPEAKER_00I should go to a tanning bed.
SPEAKER_01They're so boring we can't even stay on topic. But we love them. Speaking about racism, the the one of the parts I really did like that they actually got shown about them was one conversation they had in like the the backyard of the school he teaches at, or something. And it was like a very cool, real conversation about them having mixed babies, mixed race babies, and how she was like, it does upset me. Like I think about the fact that there'll be things I will never be able to relate to my child about because my child will be, you know, half black and I am white. And I was like, that's such an interest. I've never thought of that. Like it was just a cool conversation, and I I do love them and I'm here for them. But like, you know, good for you guys. Let's move it along. Let's move it along. We gotta get to the rest of these things. We gotta get to the turd burglar himself. Good lord. All right, let's go in the order they went in. So the next couple couple they went for was Jordan and Amber. The the next the ones that walked down the aisle and did get married. So they started with the two married couples. And and Jordan is sitting there just sweating balls, and Nick Lachey is like, Hey, sweatier, never been sweatier, and he's just like, Hey, you know, so how's it going? How's the marriage? And he's like, not great. We uh only lasted four months, we're already divorced.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know, I know, and I texted you as I'm watching this, like, I don't care if they sign a waiver or whatever, you should not be allowed to come on these types of shows with children because if you're not gonna protect your kid, somebody fucking should. I'm sorry. It's introducing your kid to some guy, moving him into your house, getting married when you don't know him, and then he leaves, and your daughter is just distraught. And what I I cannot fathom it. It made me so angry. It makes sense.
SPEAKER_01I love Amber. I love Amber on this season. I think she's my favorite girl. And Amber's pose, her sideways pose when they were doing the reveal. I don't know if you remember that in the circle. She did this like sideways, like supermodel. I just I love her, but I agree. Like you seeing her daughter in the whole wedding scene just really upset me. You could see how uncomfortable her daughter was, you could see how sad she was, and just the whole thing. Like, no, I don't think we we can't have anyone with kids on this show anymore. It's not fair to the kids.
SPEAKER_00You you have a duty to the children, even if their parents don't, you do. Somebody needs to protect these kids.
SPEAKER_01This is all there's no way a kid could be okay with meeting a future parent-in-law one time. Uh there's just the before they get married. Like, there's just no way.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely not.
SPEAKER_00It's not cool. I agree. Really frustrating. I also think it's entirely believable that she like blacks out and verbally assaults.
SPEAKER_01The Ohio was showing the OHIO show is. The OHIOS coming out.
SPEAKER_02Yikes.
SPEAKER_01I I think it's both like Jordan's whole shtick about I don't want to move out of, you know, the the bumping metropolis of Columbus, Ohio, with all the bars and that one concert I can go to. Like I can't, like, I can't leave Columbus to go 45 minutes up the road to where you live. Like, bro, you're gonna be a husband and a father. You're not going out to bars. Like, that's not your life anymore. You don't need to live there.
SPEAKER_00Did you were you ever successful at bars? I think that's the issue, is that now he's on the show and he probably is doing better than he's done in his whole life at a bar, and he's like, shit, I like this life. You know, no one's ever looked twice at my fat ass before now, but no, he's not attractive.
SPEAKER_01Like he's one of those, you know, his personality is really what gets you, and even that is not great.
SPEAKER_00That was yeah, he's just mediocre sweat the whole time. Oh, yeah. And I don't know those lines are bad, and he was uncomfortable, but I mean, yeah, we had planned, and maybe we just weave them in throughout this episode to talk about things that give us the ick. A heavy sweater gives me the ick. Like you're just sweating your tits off at any given moment. I look over you and you have to wipe mop your brow. No, it's it's a no for me.
SPEAKER_01It's a no for me, dog. So yeah, I mean, Jordan sucked, and uh there may have been some behavior of Amber's allegedly that maybe sucked, but I still love Amber. So yeah, they didn't work out. I mean, yeah, Jordan didn't want to move from Columbus, and she was just getting like mad over it. Because of course, like what the fuck are we seeing each other once a week? We're married. What are we doing? Grow up. What are we doing? So they were they never should, he's never should have said yes. They never should have said yes, they never should have ended up together. No, and no, yeah. They're they're a mess. So kados to them. Huge mess.
SPEAKER_00Kadoos that they are separated. Yeah. So then we moved on to who?
SPEAKER_01Bree Breezy and Connor. I think I might hate Breezy more than I hate any of these guys this season. That's not true. That's not true. I take that back. That's not true. But Breezy is up there. She is the she is everything I don't like about women. She is a pick-me girl. She is not a girls' girl. She's a mean girl. We saw it all season. We saw it with her and Chris when he was talking shit about Jess and at the meetup. And we saw it on this episode, this reunion. Like, she is the the whole trip with so apparently Breezy, Ashley, and Priyanka Chopra in the audience, their little mean girls group, go to Austin and go to this concert, and they invite Devante, or as they refer to him as Devo. And it's like news to Connor's ears. Like it comes out later when who was with Devante? Brittany. Britney brings it out later, and that she's like so pissed that the girls like they weren't even broken up yet, and he was acting single in Austin, and none of the girls told him, told her that he was there, blah blah blah blah. And they're like, Well, we didn't really like invite. I mean, we were just all hanging out, and he came and and they were like, Connor, what do you think of this? And Connor was just like, Oh, I didn't even know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, how do you know?
SPEAKER_01I was more upset by the fact that Connor was finding this out in real time with us. Totally. I'm like, I don't get it, Connor. She's not that hot, like, she treats you like shit, like garbage. Wait, like I don't understand how you're still here.
SPEAKER_00Totally, totally. Like, you taught me I how I needed to be loved. What the fuck does that mean? What does that mean?
SPEAKER_01Her whole season with him was just like you know, I love you because of how much you love me. That was it.
SPEAKER_00She's just feeding her own ego, and then she entertained a little little CrossFit for way longer than she should have, and then wasn't really very honest with Connor about it. You know, it was just uh the whole Thing was so gross. I'm like, sweetie, you are an OHIO nine and you're a rest of the world six. All right, let's call our kits here. Yes. Right, right.
SPEAKER_01I can't stand her. I I don't know why Connor is with her. I like the fact that she could not tell him that Devo was on this stupid trip. And like, yeah, you know, Nicola Shane and Vanessa were like, oh, anything happened. And she was like, no, like, nothing, believe me, nothing, nothing fucking happened. All of them were like, no, where no one was getting with Devo, and I believe that. But like, if you could lie about something that innocuous, and I guess maybe lying by omission, then like, what else are you lying about? I mean, the fact Connor didn't know that like his own cast member went on this trip with tell him.
SPEAKER_00What is the what is the CrossFit guy's name again? Chris. Chris, she didn't even tell him like all the things that Chris had said to her at that bar. It's like, what I liked. I would have immediately been like, don't talk to me. We're not gonna, we're not, I have no interest in hearing what you have to say. This is gross. Cut it off, go tell my husband or whatever, and we're leaving.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but she loved it. She loved the attention. Yeah, she loves attention from men, including Debo. But yeah, so Breezy sucks. Breezy can, you know.
SPEAKER_00Breeze right out of here.
SPEAKER_01Breezy D's nuts. Yeah, exactly. But they got back together. They said they didn't go to the altar and they're now together.
SPEAKER_00But he's like, oh, she's the woman I'll marry, and all this Connor, you could do so much better.
SPEAKER_01Like, you're not that great, Connor, but you know, compared to the rest of these schmucks. Yeah, right. You're right.
SPEAKER_00I mean, yeah, I guess that's true. Comparatively, he's coming out pretty good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he's number two after Vic for sure out of that season.
SPEAKER_00Right. A distant number two, but yeah.
SPEAKER_01A distant number two. Next they go to what was their names? Oh, Emma and Mike. Which who cares? Mike sucked. Who cares? Mike was the Italian. Emma was the yeah, the Asian girl. The what?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I'm so funny. What did you call this names? I said the blonde one. The blind one?
SPEAKER_00Don't say it.
SPEAKER_03Don't really say it.
SPEAKER_00Whatever it is.
SPEAKER_03It wasn't great.
SPEAKER_00It wasn't great. I cannot remember any of these names because you know why? They're not memorable. Yeah, we don't memorable two of them. Couldn't give a shit. Why did you pick her if you knew she wasn't interested in having kids and that was a deal breaker and she couldn't convince you that she wanted kids? Fuck off.
SPEAKER_01Lily fuck off.
SPEAKER_00I loved her family. I loved her family.
SPEAKER_01I loved her parents. I did not love her sister, who was like, I hate these fucking kids.
SPEAKER_02I live to regret my life. Yeah, no, you're right. Don't have children.
unknownDo it.
SPEAKER_02She's like, don't do SOS. SOS.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Did it loved her? Loved her parents, who were just everything you could dream of like open, loving.
SPEAKER_00She's so sweet. Talking about her as a child.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and just adorable. Supporting her decisions, whatever they may be. Like, you know, we would love grandkids if she wants that. Like it's they were great. But this clearly the sister was projecting her own unhappiness with her life of her children onto Emma. And that's why Emma was like, I don't think I ever want kids.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00And I'm like, I don't think these fucking kids they're miserable.
SPEAKER_01Hey, this one, yeah. I see my sister's miserable with her kids. Like, I don't want that.
SPEAKER_00Right, exactly. Plus, I didn't love that. They would have the same like birthmark or whatever.
SPEAKER_01You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which like you could just get genetic testing and like figure it out either way before. But I think it was more her sister being like, don't ever have fucking children. Your life's amazing, you're single, you can do whatever you want. Like, once you have kids, everything changes, your life's ruined. Like, I think it's probably more of that.
unknownExactly. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, they didn't make it a I mean, Mike was basically, yeah, he was he just said, I couldn't be you didn't convince me enough that you wanted to have kids. And I know.
SPEAKER_00And yeah, I I I again like, I you should never make it down the aisle. I I don't understand why anybody makes it down the aisle that doesn't want to get married. You should just call it, like if you actually cared about that person, you would call it before you ever got to the wedding. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. What was interesting was they said we had talked about it before, I don't know, a week before or whatever. And basically both came to the realization that we were both going to say no at the altar. Like with the kids saying and everything.
SPEAKER_00That's right, that's right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And they like Yeah, and they frankencut Nick Cliche saying, like, this is why we encourage couples to not talk about their decisions at the altar before they get there because things can change in the moment.
SPEAKER_00Like, clearly, producers are like, yeah, Vanessa's like, this is why we encourage you not to make a decision until you're at the altar. It's like, what? No, that's like the worst idea I've ever heard. Right. Make a decision until you're standing in front of the guy. Like, no.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_01That's what the producers want. Producers want these couples to stop being like, okay, we're both gonna say yes, we're both gonna say no. Like, they're like, no, no, no. We want to see hearts breaking at this altar.
SPEAKER_02We want to see dismay, you know, shock and all.
SPEAKER_00Like shocking awe.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and then he has like a new girlfriend or whatever, so who cares?
SPEAKER_00Right. Nobody cares about either of them anyway, so it's now we're getting now.
SPEAKER_01We're getting to the juicy, the juicy bits. Chris and Ashley.
SPEAKER_00Is Ashley the blonde one?
SPEAKER_01Ashley is the blonde.
SPEAKER_00Thank God. Thank God. These are the two I have dying to get into it. That's fucking girl. First of all, she decided to be a bitch to Devon Devo's fiance because she was mad that her man liked her way better. You know, she was done with her and she she whipped up all the other mean girls to mean off in Austin.
SPEAKER_01Yes, no, I'm an asshole. It's Ashley and Alex, but yes, keep going.
SPEAKER_00It's not actually whatever. Doesn't matter again. Nobody matters about these people, they're all horrible. But I think she's awful. I think he's awful. We gotta bounce around and meet my mom. She's a long haul trucker, which also did not expect his mom to look like that. She was an Ohio 10. I was not expecting that.
SPEAKER_01I have a theory. I have a theory. Put your tinfoil hat on. Okay, so we're talking about Ashley and Alex. Sorry, I confused Alex and Chris. They're both terrible. Ashley and Alex, Alex the con man, the soccer playing con man. Okay, I have a theory. Tinfoil hat on. So I don't think Alex's mom on this show is actually Alex's mom. I I think this is my just my theory. I think that woman that we saw on television was like some kind of reverse lot lizard trucker gal that Alex stupped P.S.
SPEAKER_00Maybe lot lizard is one of my favorite terms of all time. I try to work it in as many conversations as possible. Well, here you go. This is why we're best friends.
SPEAKER_01This is why he's best friends. She's like a reverse lot lizard because she's the one coming to town. He's really the lot lizard. I think, you know, they had a cougar-esque relationship, a couple couple bones here and there. I think he got on the show and he called her up and was like, I'm on this show. My parents don't support it. I need someone to like be my mom. You're kind of like a mother figure to me. Can you come on the show?
SPEAKER_00Figure to me. Do I reverse lot lizard it with?
SPEAKER_01All over the place.
SPEAKER_00You stopped me in the parking lot of that exon. You've been like a mother to me.
SPEAKER_01You've been like a mother to me. Can you be on the show and pretend to be my mom? That is what I that is what I think.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god. All right, listen. You know I'm not, I don't usually buy into your bullshit, but I'll tell you, that's sounding sounding plausible. Right? I don't know about the lot lizard of it all, but I I do I do think it's entirely possible that she is not his mommy.
SPEAKER_01I do not think this woman is.
SPEAKER_00Maybe mommy in the bedroom history between the two of them. Like there was an act between him and his fiance.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. She might have been mommy in the bedroom, but she was not mommy in real life. I mean, she showed up in a what sparkly club dress to the wedding. I was like she wanted to look hot. I don't think this woman was his mother. I don't think any family members of his are actually I think everything about him is a lie and a con.
SPEAKER_00I believe that.
SPEAKER_01That's my feeling.
SPEAKER_00And it's weird to say you want to bounce around and move all around the country. That's a weird thing.
SPEAKER_01What are you running from?
SPEAKER_00Be able to be mobile between Florida and Arizona. I'm like, ugh, say less. Just doctor bullets everything. We've got to leave OHIO for these two regal destinations. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Didn't he say they had to have like a safe house in New Zealand or something? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean, what is he talking about?
SPEAKER_01Could it be a red or red flag? In more reason why.
SPEAKER_00So think he was attracted to her and they hooked up. Guarantee you she is the most boring pillow princess that has ever pillow princessed before.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Ashley. I thought you were talking about his fake mom. Okay. Yes. Oh, no. I think her fake mom.
SPEAKER_00She's a freak of the sheet. Yeah, I think so too.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00She knows her way around a lot.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. No, his mom is gets after it. But Ashley is a fellow princess. We're just going for his mom. Him and his mom have sexual chemistry. My God.
SPEAKER_01She's doing all sorts of fucking moves. She's hanging from the ceiling. They're trying all sorts of stuff. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00The ceiling of her double wife. Big rig. Big rig. She's hawking the horn. They invented road swing, which, you know, who even knew what that was before?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they get fucking crazy. Crazy. But him and Ashley, Ashley's boring. No, not at all.
SPEAKER_00Ashley was so boring. They probably had sex. She laid there and went like, ugh, and that was it.
SPEAKER_01And because a woman who, I don't know, the vibe I got from her of like all she talked about was how like horny she was all the time. And like if you know, Doth protests, like if all you talk about is like how much you want to have sex all the time, then you're just like, Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's like women who talk about how much their husbands want to have sex with them. It's like sweetie, it's gay.
SPEAKER_01It's gay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. So they're terrible. And she and she had that like her dad was the lawyer who just like grilled him, which I did appreciate that scene. I mean, her dad's awful, but him just grilling Alex.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But his dad knew, or her dad knew. He knew he knew he was lying out of his ass. And I think they had the whole thing planned. They were like, you're gonna go to the altar, you're gonna embarrass him, you're gonna do this whole speech, and walk away with her head held high.
SPEAKER_00And it's like, okay, whatever. I don't care. Like, I'm on TV now. You call me whatever. I'm gonna get a little tail from this. Mom loved it, by the way. Was thrilled to be on TV. She's even wilder than she used to be, you know.
SPEAKER_01We've had the best sex after that wedding. Me and my mom.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. We broke in that honeymoon sweet.
SPEAKER_03We broke in the honeymoon big ring.
SPEAKER_00She wears dunno denim jacket. Oh my god. I bet she, I bet mom has a Michael Bolton airbrush denim jacket.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. But it's like, it's like it's like John Bon Jovi.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. John Bon Jovi. I know.
SPEAKER_01I know. I got mom pecked. I know because I know her whole life story.
SPEAKER_00Who she is, her entire life story. Wow.
SPEAKER_01He's the hottest guy and the youngest guy she's ever been with. So she keeps in touch with him all the time. And when he was like, Mom.
SPEAKER_00She's used to the long haul trucker men, you know. She's probably a hot commodity on the routes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And she's like, oh. And so when he was like, Mom, I need you to come out and pretend to be my mom. She was like, Yeah, I'm I'm here for you, baby.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, in between takes, I'll give you a hand ski in the bathroom, you know.
SPEAKER_01Because he was like, I'm not gonna, I you know, I'm I'm just doing this to promote my brand, my soccer brand. Like, I'm not actually gonna be with this girl. I just want to promote my soccer investment travel brand. I is that what he's I think yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know what is even like further evidence when Ashley was talking to her, like, do you think he could be happy doing investments because he loves soccer? And she looked, that was the first time she'd heard that he does investments. That was like news to her. Mom was like, huh. I thought he just did me. Invested in this she is an Ohio long haul trucker, Samantha Jones.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00Blanche Devereaux, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, I love her, she's everything to me.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, we need to do a fucking deep dive. We need to AI, whatever we can find out about this one, and come back next week with more information.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we really do. Alex is a giant red flag, and I I do like that Nick and him were going back. Like when Nick went after Chris, who we'll get into next, like Chris just sat there and just took it and like white-knuckled his seat. It was just like, let me get through my segment. And Alex was just like hotheaded, like, what do you mean? What do you want me to say? Yeah, just made himself look like more of an asshole.
SPEAKER_00He did, but I liked it. I wish Chris hadn't they shouldn't have let Chris self-medicate. I I definitely think he took a Xanax or something prior, you know. Like you could always tell on like a real housewives reunion when somebody who's been the villain all season comes on with that glazed look in their eyes, and it's just like, oh great, we're not gonna get to the bottom of this. They took Xanax before the the reunion, you know.
SPEAKER_01He was zooted, he looked like my dog before a plane ride. He was feeling no pain.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. He had like a couple Benadryl, a Xanax, maybe a half a glass of wine, you know.
SPEAKER_01He was in another dimension. Nothing. Nothing. He wasn't even there. Move on to Chris and Jess, who is who I confused Chris and Ashley, but Chris and Jess. Chris is the you know, hindsize CrossFitter demon, just absolute demon straight from hell.
SPEAKER_00To say to a fucking doctor that a hot doctor who works out, I'd be like, I'm sorry, I want somebody smart, I want somebody with money, I want somebody who's not five foot four.
SPEAKER_01To say that, and then like that scene was bad enough. And so I was watching it a little ahead of you, and like that scene was bad enough, but the next scene to triple quadruple down on it in front of everyone and all the cameras. That's when I was like, Mallory, you gotta watch this. Like this is that sent me into the stratosphere of just wow, we are unaware, we are very self-unaware. Yeah, just a monster. There's nothing to say to defend that. There's absolutely nothing to say.
SPEAKER_00I don't give a fuck, I don't give a shit. It's like, yeah, we get it. You know all the curse words, all the words. We're proud of you.
SPEAKER_01Like knows so many curse words.
SPEAKER_00So many word necessarily.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and for Nick O-H-I-O-Leche to be more upset about breaking bro code than the way he talks to Jess. I mean, that is what sent Nick Lachey off. I mean, Vanessa had to do Vanessa had to do the wife like thigh grip on him at one point because he was just like, How could you fucking do that? You don't have anything to say?
SPEAKER_00She's is she never not on Xanax?
SPEAKER_01Why is she even there? We don't even need her. Just have Nick. I mean, I that I appreciated it. He was like, That's it, you have nothing to say. That's all you want to say. You don't apologize to Connor, you don't want to say anything else to Jet. Like, really? This is how you're gonna act.
SPEAKER_00Like, I was like, Alright, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01I'm right.
SPEAKER_00Here we are, we're alive, and things and be exactly the right battle, but sure.
SPEAKER_01But we're fighting a battle and we'll take it. We'll take it.
SPEAKER_00He is just so hideous, too.
SPEAKER_01It's like and the inside, outside, all of it. Just hideous. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00If we skip the couple that Devo, did we s we skip the last one? Oh, they're the last one.
SPEAKER_01They're the last one. We ended with Devo. We ended with Devo.
SPEAKER_00What is Devo's fiance's name?
SPEAKER_01Ex-fiance is Britney.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So then Britney and Devante.
SPEAKER_00Yes. I think Brittany. What's his face? The guy, the Alex lover. Alex. I think Alex saw her and saw that hotbot and was like, this is it. I got this pillow princess over here. I could have some fun with this one. I'd rather do that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she was definitely the most uh attractive one. I mean, the girls were all very pretty, but she was she was on.
SPEAKER_00I I don't think Breezy is pretty. I'm sorry. No one's gonna say it. I think she's basic. Yeah, the other one, Ashley, is pretty. She's conventionally very pretty. Like she's very cookie cutter. You're blonde, you're tall, you have the boobs, you're skinny. Like, you know what I mean? She's she's fine. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I agree. I think that Britney, that's her name, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01She got it.
SPEAKER_00There's only so much room in the screen.
SPEAKER_01You better not go on.
SPEAKER_00Brittany is the most attractive by far. But I also like the doctor. What is her name? Jess. Jess gorgeous. Jess gorgeous. They were the they were the two prettiest ones on there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Jess is gorgeous. Emma was super cute. I mean, Amber was like an Ohio 9, but she had a rockin' bod. Yeah. I mean, they all all the ladies were attractive. Except Breezy. She's ugly on the inside.
SPEAKER_00Amber has seen things.
SPEAKER_01Amber's Amber's lived alive.
SPEAKER_00Amber's lived alike. Like if Alex's mom had had a kid at that age. Or maybe she is. Maybe she did have a kid at that age. You know. Not Alex. But a kid. Yeah, she's the ghost of she's the ghost of Alex's past. You know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Amber's she's lived a life. She's lived a she's lived. She's lived. But Brittany's adorable.
SPEAKER_00In Texas, we say road hard and put up wet.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. That's Amber. You know? God bless her. God bless her.
SPEAKER_00God bless. You know.
SPEAKER_01Cheers to Amber on that one. Look light to her. Drink more gobbled. But Brittany's adorable. Devante is a leg creature. I don't like I don't understand.
SPEAKER_00Sweaters. Jesus.
SPEAKER_01Everything. And like the whole seasons it just basically be like, I'm not attracted to you. I'm not attracted to you. You're not my type. Like, how? Because I saw, okay. Timbo hat back on. I saw on the dark web that basically Devante, some of his exes came out and said that essentially Devante does not like black women. Is not attracted to black women. Even though I hate to break it to you, Devontae, but you appear to be half black. So spoiler alert, Devontae! So you need half black. So maybe you had something to work on and the inside hating on the inside, but like that has been what I've seen on the interwebs is like he does not like black women, he's not attracted to black women, and so the second he saw Brittany was was just like, oh no, absolutely not.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I'm sorry, you take one look at those hooters and you're like, bring me someone else? What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_01Get stunning, stunning, stunning, sweet, successful, I mean, all the things you could want, and you are right, you are you are you just Ken. You are just Ken. Yeah. Driving away in your Honda. Right. Like 100%. So her dad is in the audience, which I don't know. I loved him.
SPEAKER_00I I love We didn't need to hear from him.
SPEAKER_01No, we did not need to hear from him, especially when he was trying to like support and lift up Devante while like also kind of defending his daughter, but was just like I wish the best for you. And like I, you know, I want you to be the best you can be, and like all these supportive words, and Devontae's like tearing up a little bit, and then and this was beautiful, and then they like cut to Nick, and Nick's like, Do you have another update for us? And he's like, Yeah, I'm actually expecting a child, some random bitch.
SPEAKER_00I know, seriously. Who wants, you know, to his credit?
SPEAKER_01Uh apparently what he wanted, white, I get white, as white as white can be, is the the lady Ohio 7.
SPEAKER_02So that was tough. She I mean a pregnant woman, but apparently his type.
SPEAKER_01So, I mean, yeah, as my husband said, uh, we got to see a future single mother, and God bless her. 100%.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, she's uh gonna be. hanging out with Amber soon. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But the I mean the wild thing was we found we found I mean this this reunion the hits just kept on coming. We find out in one breath we find out in one breath that Alex and Dvo are roomies in Arizona making soccer youtube videos then in the next breath that Dvo has a baby mama with a baby coming and that that baby mama lives in a house he has in Ohio and that our doctor our doctor Jess is that her name yes it is now dating somebody who was on the show right paramel who I don't remember but yes another doctor yeah he was from the pods yes yes like and he was like she's so hot she's so smart like thank you basically you idiot for like releasing her so that I could date her yeah thank you little troll bobblin for releasing this woman so I could snatch her up back to the go back to living under the bridge and collecting tools collecting CrossFit coins or whatever you do exactly barbells collecting barbells right yeah it's like the grumpy old troll from Door on the explorer that's what he looked like yeah he was awful but I mean Devo and then we find out that whole thing Britney's like I can't believe you know he basically talked to her and said I want to work on things were not broken up and then disappeared for a week went to meet up with the the mean girls went to Austin to meet up for the concert and then came back and broke up with her and she was like why didn't any of you three girl women tell me that he was there like I didn't know where he was and he was partying with you guys.
SPEAKER_00And they're like that Ashley I guarantee you has never lost a man to a woman of color say it there it is. I agree what it is I agree and some of the other ones the white ones wanted to see it either they didn't want to see it. They're like how I mean that's that's what it was he was more attractive to Britney than he was to Ashley because she is more attractive and she couldn't stand it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah and she even said it on the show not that but she said like you know I find out that Britney is your type you know no offense Britney you're beautiful but like you know great yeah yeah I 100% agree 100% agree that's just yeah I hope we go somewhere better next time I I really do we can only go up from oh you can only go up from Ohio I mean my god North Carolina is looking like a bunch of fucking beauty queens you know small creatures they brought a bunch of those back jimmy and mega fox all those out of the yes or the guy that put that that pulled up on his longboard you know short sleeves yeah we did not need to see any of them they did that weird pregnancy announcement with Bliss and I don't know the other guy's name with like his dead grandmother I didn't need to see that that should have just been for the family we didn't need any of that the end with the song I was like the end I fast forwarded to make sure nothing crazy happened at the end but that was it that was it I also thought Amber storming out crying was like really poor acting she it just blended to it um cave that she has anger issues yeah yeah Alex is well I just thought she was trying too hard to look I don't know that's all bullshit hold on now we need to Alex love is blind season mom is Kristen Kristen who's named Kristen that's no that alone I don't need to google any further no that nobody's mom's name Kristen got you got you nobody's mother's name Kristen no I love it yeah I mean it was a great reunion this journey the journey to this reunion was not great but this reunion was in this case the destination was the journey yeah yeah it really was it really was okay let's let's let's take a second where do we think next season's gonna be we're gonna take a guess as to what city we think is next by cities by seasons okay okay okay so we've got season one was in Atlanta Georgia season two in Chicago three in Dallas four in Seattle five houston six Charlotte seven Washington DC eight minneapolis nine denver and ten ohio so where do we sit where do we think have they not done California they have not done California or Florida i i think florida i can't go to Florida i think I can do it I don't think I can do it I really don't think they're gonna go to Florida or Arizona or Austin well they already did Dallas but it's like Austin was such a big player on this season I know truly I think Florida or California I can't believe they haven't done those two yet yeah yeah fair fair point I can't wait okay I can't wait I'm glad we sucked but the reunion was fire reunion was fire I hope that little troll gets roasted in every bar he goes into me too I hope we see Alex's mother again another reality show a hundred percent yeah or on the road or on the road yeah give her two two oh this was great i mean Matt you know we started this podcast to catch up as friends we are now long distance friends and our you know shitty reality tv shows are really what is that's our love language it is our love language brought us together we really fell in love over Scandal we did we did what a time to meet what a fortuitous time to meet yeah oh god those were the good old days I was thinking about Scandal the other day and how amazing that time was was so good was lightning in a bottle it was a once in a lifetime opportunity never happened again nope um nope for those who don't know Vanderpump Rolls the whole Tom Standoval and Raquel affair season I mean I kind of I was thinking the other day I want to watch it again because it like just to to go through that journey.
SPEAKER_00Lead up and then like halfway through you know you start to know that that it's happening and you see the clues and then oh my god it's so good. But yeah our love language is trashy reality television and this is just this is just where we're at folks so yeah we're doing the work for you so you're welcome you're welcome please keep with us on this journey if you love reality TV as well and we have uh secret lives of mormon wives coming up we had there was something else oh I think oh I mean I guess we can talk about this a little bit so Secret Lives of Mormon Wives I was gonna say oh in this next season of The Bachelorette but now we don't know which may or may not happen due to Taylor Frankie Paul's abuse allegations which I just want to say is a very sexist I mean every single football player in the NFL has uh you know domestic violence charges and I still see them playing every Sunday how dare you the one time a woman gets a DV charge against a man and all of a sudden we gotta cut the whole show get the fuck out of here it makes me so angry.
SPEAKER_01Preach yeah yeah it just came out that uh she's got some DV charges against her from Dakota that they're still fucking just going at it and I don't know the whole filming of the next season of Sequelized Mormon Wives has been halted which is a big deal to fully halt the production of a show and now her season of the Bachelorette is supposed to premiere this Sunday and it is now like in limbo of what ABC is going to do.
SPEAKER_00So honestly I mean just Aaron I'm gonna watch that shit I don't care I'm gonna watch it just like everybody still watching football all right yeah I'm gonna watch it I'm not gonna not all of a sudden stop watching things because somebody beat up a dumbass man whose eyes are basically one at this point.
SPEAKER_01So we'll see maybe this season the bachelorette maybe not but definitely more wives and I mean a lot of the pipeline so follow us on a Kiki catch up on Instagram and we will post when new episodes are up and what shows we're watching and if there's any shows you think we should watch maybe shows reality shows from the past that we should give a listen to maybe you know Vanner Pump Rules the season yeah hit us up. All right Mallory to see you as well great to see you oh this was so fun so fun good reunion loved it loved it all right bye bye