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A Kiki Catchup
Sitting In Our Discomfort with Mel McDaniel
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RISK IT FOR THE BISCUIT. The feelings are flowing on this OG catchup! We tackle hot topics such as Justin Trudeau and Katy Perry's offensive Coachella appearance, Millennial ownership rights to Al Gore's Internet and the Summer House leaked audio who-done-it. Mallory dusts off an oldie, but a goodie, from the 90's Country Music vault while Jackie dusts off her tinfoil hat for some questionable conspiracy theories. Pick yourself up by your bootstraps and fire up that dial up, as we kick it old school.
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Hey Mallory. Hey Jackie. How are we doing? We're good. How are you doing? I am better than when I talked to you earlier.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_04I was in such a state that Jackie felt like she had to call me in one of the rare instances when she would talk to me, not on the podcast.
SPEAKER_02So you know it's you know I hate to take it off the air, but you were sending me some cryptic text messages. And I said, you know what? I'm gonna do a wellness check on my girl.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna cheat you. Yep. I uh I was sitting alone in my empty house going through my daughter's toddler clothes like a fucking idiot, like a dumbass, like a dumbass. And yeah, just you know, drying my tears with her little baby hats. And Jackie's like, You okay, girl? I'm like, nope, surely I'm not. Not at all.
SPEAKER_02I message her, like, hey, when do you want to hop on record today? She was like, Well, I can't right now because I'm sitting in my empty old house, drying my tears with my daughter's toddler clothes and crying. I was like, Okay, I'm gonna give you a ring.
SPEAKER_04You did, you did. I appreciate that. That was very kind of you. Moving as a teams for my under eyes because the you know result of the tears. But the tears. Yeah. You know, and you know it's bad when the tears can break through SSRIs, GLP1s, maybe a you know, microdose of Adderall, like allegedly, I mean the Kool-Aid man, that thing. It did. We're coming through. I don't care how many meds you're gonna feel this coursing through your veins right now. You will feel something. You're gonna feel something whether you're something. Exactly. Exactly. But thank God for the meds, or I might be in the fucking hospital right now, you know. Yeah. Moving's stressful. Like moving is the most stressful thing you can do. As someone who has moved is a lot. It's especially with kids, you know, because you're like, I'm leaving the place where my son was born, I'm leaving the like my daughter's first real house. And yeah. It's a lot, it's a lot. I had to leave the house she was born, we had to leave the house we survived COVID in, and we had to leave this last house where we like made friends. And I mean, it sucks. Best friends.
SPEAKER_06But it sucks.
SPEAKER_04It sucks. It sucks every time. Indeed, indeed. Yeah, but I'm over it now. Yeah, got it. Did you wipe your tears also with those over 100 listens we've gotten on our last? I did. I did. I you know what? That brought me back. Yes.
SPEAKER_03I now it's all worth it. You know what? It's all gonna be worth it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. You know, I had a FaceTime date with what date that sounds gross. I had a FaceTime meeting with my brother last night. I did not date my brother. That's real southern. My cousin was over there, and he's like, Oh, congratulations, a hundred thousand listens. I was like, Well, you know, not quite a hundred. Take a take a few thousand off that. But like, I I appreciate that you think that, you know. Someday, someday we'll be at a hundred thousand. And you know, he is a single man of 43 out here in these streets trying to find a wife, and he's like, You need to have me on the pot. I was like, I think we do. I think we do. We need to hear uh we don't hear enough from men. We need to give a voice to the voiceless, is what we need, you know. That's that's what we need. I know my husband's rolling his eyes right now listening to this. Oh, yeah. I know, I know. Love you so much.
SPEAKER_02Love you, love you, love you. Yeah, when I was trying to make in Canva real quick our little like cover photo for our little thank you so much video, everything was like 100K. And I was like, not quite the K.
SPEAKER_04Just drop the K. 100. Drop the K. Yep, just drop the K, just one hundred, one hundred things. Starting small, celebrating little little milestones, little milestones, but it's big. That was, I mean, a hundred listens in 24 hours is big. That is big for us. Yep, yes, and we're well over it now. We're sore. Well over it. We're off and running. And yeah, I think you know, it speaks to not only how obsessed everyone is with Summer House, but just how talented you and I are at what we do.
SPEAKER_03You know, this is gonna be more humble. That's gonna be deeper.
SPEAKER_04Uh-uh. No, it just speaks to like what an incredible duo we are, really. You know, wow. Powerhouse.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04Our heads can barely fit in the screen written. Uh Jackie can't go outside of her house without security. You know, I mean, forget being Instagram famous in Poland. Now people are gonna be like, oh my gosh, you're the podcast with 100 listens, right? Not 100,000, but 100. That's amazing. 100. 100, maybe 200 at by the end of this week. We don't need to fingers crossed, we'll do another video. Yes, with our tops off. Oh interesting. Gotta get to 300 somehow. I'm gonna get to 300. Yeah. You want to see what life looks like after two babies? Get it here. 100,000. I don't even know. Oh my gosh, yeah. That's going to OnlyFans. That's going to OnlyFans. Yeah, that's on Patreon by that point. Gotta pay for that. Oh my gosh. So Mallory's background is it's so hard to say goodbye to yesterday, boys to men, which is apropos. It's apropos, you know. I almost turned it on at the house and I was like, I need to quit indulging myself. I'm getting a little indulgent in these feels right now. I need to lock it up. Although there's sometimes, you know what? Sometimes you have to be indulgent in your feels. That's you. You gotta, you gotta feel the feels. That's what I've learned in years and years of therapy. Yeah, put the feelings on a shelf, they come back, they there. Feel it in your muscles and your bones. You gotta let it out somehow. I gotta actually feel them. Sit in the feeling, sit in discomfort, as my therapist would say.
SPEAKER_02My best friend Jen in college, when I was going through it after my dad died, she was raised by two therapists. Okay.
SPEAKER_04Two therapists. The girl is, she's grounded. She is looking it could go one of two ways with therapist parents, in my experience. Either you're super grounded, or you're insane. Like therapists. Oh no. Sometimes therapists are mizets. Yeah, I could I could see that. If you're like a crazy, yeah, like real Western medicine therapist, therapeutic. Yeah, yeah. But no, these were two very grounded New Jersey, North Jersey therapists, wonderful people. And so she would be just like my therapist, and she would just always be like, You have to go through it. You cannot go around it. You have to go through this, you have to just feel it, or or it will, you will never get to the other side. That's right. That's exactly right. And it sucks. Nobody wants to do it. It does so it sucks. I told Brandon after one of my first therapy sessions after my dad died that she said something similar, and he's like, Well, don't do that. I was like, she said I have to sit and feel it. He's like, No, why would you do that? That sounds so cool. Terrible. Sounds like the worst. Yeah, put that shit up, lock it in a little box, tuck it away. Yep. Who needs it? Yeah. So my dad's been missing for five years. So what? So our dad's been missing for you know, over a decade. Over a decade. You just sometimes you gotta pick yourself up by the bootstraps and move on. And see, you know, this is why we need the voice of a man on this podcast is you know, to tell us things like that. Yes, yep, yeah. I have a song for you. Um going to our okay. Oh, I came. I came. Okay. I came with a favorite. It was a favorite of my dad's and a favorite of mine. This is by a guy named Mel McDaniel. I've never heard of Mel McDaniel. I knew I knew the wow, we're gonna do it. I knew the deep wouldn't have. We're going d'eep. Okay, hold on. It's let me see if I put it to my microphone.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so this Polish. What's going on there? YouTube commercial. Oh, and another one. All right, hold on. Yeah, we're good. Here we go. Oh, there we go. I can hear it.
SPEAKER_00Down on the call, but it's better.
SPEAKER_04We got the blue team. But the butt dad. Oh, we got bad dots.
SPEAKER_02All right, all right. I'm here for Mel McDonald. His picture is horrifying, but yes, I am.
SPEAKER_03It's truly terrifying.
SPEAKER_02He looks like someone from my nightmares, but okay. That's a bop.
SPEAKER_04This man has harmed women in his past. Absolutely. Yeah. Where from this poor woman in the song. This woman in her blue jeans is six feet under right now. She's buried in Mel McDaniel's backyard. Missing a few fingers, and she's that good.
SPEAKER_03She is. She's in rough shape. She's in that good shape. But a bop, nonetheless. A bop, right? I know. I know. I like that. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I've missed the 90s country. I've missed the 90s. I know. I'm gonna introduce it to you every week. Mel McDaniel. If we got any Mel McDaniel fans out in the audience right now, leave it in the comments. Shout out. Shout out. Yes. Where is Mel these days? He's got a couple of things. I mean, he looks hundred and weak in this photo from the 90s, so that can't be good. Yeah. 2011. So yeah, he's been gone a minute. He's been missing for a while. He's been missing. He was born in uh Chico Chicota, Oklahoma. And passed in Nashville in March of 2011. All right. Rest in peace. Well, we don't know. Maybe. Rest. Rest. Rest.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Maybe not so peaceful, uh, depending on how many women you unalived, but yeah. Yeah. But allegedly. But yes. Allegedly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, all alleged.
SPEAKER_02I love that. Okay, there's something I need to talk to you about because I can't believe we haven't talked about this already. And I still get pictures of it in my head, and I'm so confused by it. And even the polls here bring it up.
SPEAKER_04Can we talk about Justin Trudeau and Katie Perry at Coachella? I'm so disappointed. I never has a star fallen harder for me than Justin Trudeau. This man. This man ran a country.
SPEAKER_02And sitting on a curb in skinny jeans, I don't know, ripping a sig with his girlfriend at 44 years old. How old is Justin Trudeau? I don't know.
SPEAKER_04The pictures of that, this was weeks ago. If you haven't seen these pictures, I'll put we'll post them on the on the um Instagram. It is tough. Just the casualness of this man at Coachella. Hello. I know. You were a world leader. A world leader. And I'm sorry, Katy Perry is, in my experience, universally hated. You know, like 54 years old. 54 years old. Damn, he looks good. Looking fine. Looking fine. I know.
SPEAKER_02Wow. That's a good, that's a good looking 54. But still, sir. Katy Perry's a weirdo.
SPEAKER_04She is. I mean, she sucks. Her music sucks. She sucks. I had a ban on her career sucks. Yeah. I I had a ban on her music at my wedding, and they played one of her songs, and I was like, Well, this is like the I told you not to do this, you know. I know. I do still enjoy Katy Perry's song, but she sucks nonetheless. But the the casualness of this man sweating at Coachella, having a taco, sitting on a curb. And she's not that she's in her 40s, right?
SPEAKER_02She's definitely, yeah, she's like our age.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. But I mean, unbelievable. Even the polls here were like, what is this guy doing?
SPEAKER_03I know.
SPEAKER_04The men that she has polled, though, I gotta give it to her. I mean, Orlando Bloom. You know, she started out rough with Russell Brandt. Russell Brandt. You know. That's a rough one. You can only go up. You can only go up. Yeah. Up, up, up.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04He's taken, he's gotten pretty weird too. Yeah, he's gotten weirdo.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. He's gotten weirder. There's also something else online that's been bothering me that I saw is a Gen Z, and maybe next time we have KDP, Gen Z expert on, we can come bring her to the red table about this. But Gen Z, there's a Gen Z person online, and then it started to build some Steam that wants to hold a, she called it millennial boot camp. She was like, hey guys, I think we need to have a millennial boot camp to teach millennials how to use the internet and what's cool and what's not and what's lame. Ma'am. Ma'am, do you know what age sex location means? ASL. Have you ever ASL'd? Have you had ever had a code your own MySpace page? Have you ever heard the dial up to get on AOL? Have you ever been knocked off the internet because someone picked up the phone? Somebody had to use the phone. Have you ever heard the phrase you've got mail outside of the movie, you've got mail? Okay. If you haven't, kindly shut the fuck up. And if you think we care, what is no we don't care. We know what's cool. We're cool. We're cool.
unknownWe're cool.
SPEAKER_04I was trying to remember that phrase that Ariana said. Oh, I was born cool. I was born fucking cool. We fucking made the internet. We made the internet. We made Facebook. We made Snapchat. We made Instagram. Yeah. We made the internet. We were on Facebook when you had to have a college email address, all right? Before your grandma got on there. Okay. We single-handedly took down Vines. All right. So we almost got arrested for illegally downloading music on LimeWire. Okay. We're gonna risk our lives. Burn CDs for daddy. Burned CDs. Exactly. That's right. I have burned CDs that have the voiceover from the radio saying up next live is the killers. So don't talk to me about the internet. We know how to use the motherfucking internet. That's it by Al Gore. Okay. Little Do know who Al Gore is. Do not speak ill of Al Gore's internet, okay, ma'am? That's not what Jesus. The gall, the Stephen Zagal of this little girl. You have never been lured. Okay, I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell the story. If my mom's listening, please stop listening right now. I was I had to be in high school. I was definitely in high school. I had to be a junior or senior. I had to be a weekend. I was just on on the Al Gore's internet and in some sort of chat room, ASL. Chat rooms. Yep.
SPEAKER_02Definitely saying I was older than I was.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And definitely talking to 50-year-old men who were saying they were definitely fifty 15-year-old males. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Definitely. Came across a guy who lived like three streets down from me, who I never heard of. I think I might have sent him a picture. I'm not sure. Not naked. And he was like, Why don't you come over? I was like, Okay. Gave me his address. I walked out of my house. No one asked me anything. Just I'm gonna go for a drive. Gotta go do run an errand or something. Hopped in my car, drove to this strange man's house. I remember getting out, walking in, and there were like workers either working in like the garden or on the house or construction workers. I remember there being like workers around. So I felt better because I was like, oh, there's people here. And the doors were like open. It was his parents' house for sure.
SPEAKER_04And he meets me there and he we go down to the basement where his room was. So he like lived in his parents' basement. Yeah, he had to be in like his 20s, maybe like 25. Oh my God. Early 20s. We go into the basement.
SPEAKER_02I walk in front of him and I hear the door lock behind me going down the stairs. And in that moment, I was like, oh girl.
unknownGirl.
SPEAKER_04Girl, this ain't good. This ain't good. Yeah. And I was like, oh, then that's in Mel McDaniel's backyard. Mel McDaniel's neck song. Yeah. So I was like, I knew I fucked up. And I remember his basement smoking of a lot of weed, which he was smoking weed, smelled of weed. And there was the lava lamps and there was like tie-dye tapestries. That's all I remember. Oh my God.
SPEAKER_02And I was like, I gotta get out of here. And I don't know exactly how I did it. I think I told him I had to go to the bathroom and it happened to be upstairs. And so he like let me back up and I ran.
SPEAKER_04I just ran out the front door, ran to my car.
SPEAKER_02Thank God you drove and didn't walk. Thank God. And just was like, what the fuck did I just do? I couldn't tell you his name, but I do remember he drove a very like banana yellow sports-ish car.
SPEAKER_04And so anytime I saw that car around, like I knew it was him. I don't I don't know who you're listening. Maybe we should investigate this name. We should investigate you because you had an underage girl in your basement. Unlocked the door, and God knows what your plans were. Jeez. Yeah, we didn't know. It was the dumbest thing ever. We did. I had so many chatroom conversations, and like I remember begging my parents to drive me like a couple times over to meet up with this guy, and they were like, You're out of your fucking mind. What were we doing? We didn't know. We didn't know.
SPEAKER_02We were inventing it as we went.
SPEAKER_04We were making it up as it went. Exactly. This guy's name was Maverick, which is a believable name in Texas. But it's unbelievable. Looking back, I'm gonna guess that probably wasn't his name, and he was probably like a 50-year-old man, you know? I'm gonna name myself Maverick. Give me my internet name. Exactly. Exactly. So don't talk to us about the internet, Gen Z. You don't fucking nothing. Did you buy books from Amazon? That's all they sold? Doubt it. Literally. We said, what is with this website with the books? Just get them at Barnes and Noble. Stupid nobody's gonna buy them off the internet. Get out of here. The I had to get those two things off my chest. Yeah, I know. Those are that those are both stressful, you know? It's like we don't have we don't have time for this right now. No. Justin Trudeau and Katie Perry. We don't have time for you. You haven't even asked me about the chemtrails behind me. It's like you don't even care. Oh yeah. What is going on back then? I didn't know what it was. I thought it was just like airplanes. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02No, Mallory. They're chem, they're chemtrails. They're chemtrails. Speaking of growing up, do you remember the skies ever looking like this? No growing up? No. Big fluffy clouds. That's what we had. Big fluffy clouds. I don't know why, guys. This week, my tinfoil hat, there have been so many conspiracies.
SPEAKER_04There's been all the conspiracies about all of the scientists who've been killed who have been suicided or missing, actual missing, not like our fathers. Right. Right. There's the tick conspiracy theory. So apparently, the like ticks right now are up like 300%. Like there's so many ticks in North America and like the Northern Hemisphere more than there should be. And it's like a twofold. It is that there's Pfizer's coming out with, of course, a Lyme disease vaccine. And then fucking Bill. So there's one tick in particular.
SPEAKER_02Conspiracy Connor. There's one tick. It's a red tick with a white dot in its back. And it, if it bites you, it gives you an allergy to red meat. And they're saying Bill Gates like made this tick because then it'll everyone will have to buy his bullshit fake meek.
unknownJackie.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Tick gate. Ticket Mallory. That doesn't even make any sense because isn't his meat like lap grown? So it uses cells from actual like animals. Therefore, you would be allergic to that too. Boom. Not theory broken. It's not the same ones. Not the same cells. So we get everyone to make meat. I don't know what's going on. Mel McDaniel just started playing and I couldn't hear you. Can you hear me? From the beyond. From the beyond. From the beyond. I'm gonna close this out. Mel's listening. Yikes.
SPEAKER_03Sorry, Mel. Don't come for us. I know. Jeez.
SPEAKER_01He says, What are those two women doing on a microphone telling their You gave women microphones? How dare they? How dare they? Get back in the kitchen, make Mel a sandwich.
SPEAKER_04Oh, God. All right. All right. Well. Great catching up with you. Thank you for the wellness check earlier. Appreciate it. You're welcome. I'm getting thank you for the 90s country song again. I needed that. Oh, of course. I was missing, I was missing it. Yeah, for sure. We'll do another one next week. And thank you to our listeners for a hundred listens on our Summerhouse episode. The next breaking thing. We'll be on it. As soon as it happens, we're dropping it. Don't worry. The minute they find out who leaked that audio, we'll be up and running.
SPEAKER_02Oh, ooh, let's go quick, quick, quick. So it was coming out that, and we heard it too when we played the leaked audio, that like Amanda's audio is crisp and loud, and so is West. But everyone on the other side of the couch, the other side of the room, Mia and Lindsay and them and Sierra sounded super far away. So people are thinking it's West. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, there was there was a rumor going around. TMZ did debunk that it was West. Oh, they did. Okay. There's also rumors it could be Jesse, because I think he was on that couch too. But again, it just doesn't make sense because their phones have to be behind pillows. Like, of course, you know, Kyle took to the mic and gave his opinions. Yes. But if it did make sense what he was saying, which is that like your phone is behind a pillow. It wouldn't really pick anything up. Like he was saying he thought it was something, somebody recording like one of the the playback screens, like in another room. Screens.
SPEAKER_02But then why again would it sound would their audio sound so crisp and the others sound so far away? That's what throws me.
SPEAKER_04I don't know, but they're gonna figure it out. They're gonna figure out what it was. I can't wait. It's still not off the table that Bravo leaked it themselves, in my opinion. It's not off the table, but I don't know. Andy's sounded really mad. Yeah. He sounded really mad at us guys. He's really mad. Sorry, Andy. We do love you, but we had to play it.
SPEAKER_02We had to play it. And I I mean, I like that there were some people out there on their soapbox just like, oh yeah. This is so wrong. We can't be playing this all Joe.
SPEAKER_04Right. Well, one of my one of my favorite podcasts that I listen to every week that's Bravo themed, played it. And they're like, the the hosts are like BFFs with Andy. They text with him, they go on watch what happens live. So I'm like, if they're doing it, we can do it. I'm sorry. Yeah. We risked it for the biscuit. We said, you know what? Come at us, Bravo. And that biscuit was a hundred listens. And that was a tasty biscuit. Worth it. Worth it. Not a hundred thousand. Not a hundred K. Just clarify. Just one hundred. One zero zero. That's fine. One zero zero. But yeah, we'll see what comes out. I mean, Mallory and I are in different fucking time zones. So we're opposite sides of the planet. So we're gonna get it first. One of us is gonna get it. One of us is gonna get it. Yes, exactly. My phone will not be on silent the next few nights. You know, it'll be if we have to record two in the morning. We have to record it two in the morning, you know. We shall do it. We don't sleep anyway, so it doesn't matter. Exactly. Exactly. Who needs sleep when you have anxiety coursing three? Anxiety. Anxiety. All right, Mal. Well, glad you got a little break from crying in your closets. And thank you. Yeah, I'm gonna, the Adderall's kicking in. I'm gonna go take care of the garage now. So excellent. Excellent. The garage don't know what's coming. Not gonna know what hit it.
SPEAKER_02All right, guys. Come come hang out with us on the social. Join us on Instagram at akiki catch up. Join us in the comments. We want to hear from you.
SPEAKER_04Talk to us. Please. Tell us what you want, tell us what you need. Keep it to yourself what you don't like. You know, we don't want to need to hear that. Remember, we have to go through it together. We have to go around sit in discomfort, you know? So it's in it. Just remember that. All right, my friend. See you soon. See you soon. Bye-bye. Bye. It's a kicky catch up.
unknownIt's a kicky catch up. It's a kicky catch up.