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Summer House Reunion Part 1: Heavily Medicated
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WOW BETHENNY WOW. We are breaking down the absolute cinema that is part one of the Summer House Reunion. A master class from insult ninja, Ciara Miller and an activated Mother Hubbard. Loved seeing Carl & Mia effortlessly step it up to defend while newbie Bailey absolutely slaughter Ben from down undah. Amanda was zooted into another dimension while West tried to continuously joke-matize his way out of the sh*tstorm he created.
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Hello Mallory. Hello, Jackie. Uh look at Miss Miss Milano herself. Miss Milano. Mint Milano. Yeah. In all her fashions, her brooches.
SPEAKER_02Fashions. Did I try to make another offer on a purse? Yes, I did. Luckily for me, it was rejected. They said no. But we'll give you $40 off. So no.
SPEAKER_01Wow. We're hopping on. We are. I I need a cigarette. I don't smoke, but I I I am I'm having a fridge as we speak because yeah, that was a lot. That was this was a lot. I I'm fresh off watching part one of the Summer House Reunion. Yes. Yes. I'm it's I'm processing. It's it's wow. Wow. The Bravo Gods have given it to the thing.
SPEAKER_02They have but I they have and they haven't. I don't know. I mean, there's nothing they can do. But I can't they should have said, you know, Wes, you cannot medicate before. Oh, I mean we reunion both of them. Let's just jump into it. Let's just jump in.
SPEAKER_01First of all, the only way I could truly depict how I feel right now is with Lindsay Mother Hubbard. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I'm amazing.
SPEAKER_01I mean, this this act of yeah. This was my face the entire thing. Just like hot medicated. Amanda was not in the room with us. She said, she's in another dimension. And she went off to another dimension.
SPEAKER_02She's in another, another dimension. Another dimension. Yeah. She's gone. She's now, she's no longer among us.
SPEAKER_01But she's first comment was like, Why are her pupils so dilated? And I was like, that's called medication.
SPEAKER_02That's called the surface. I wonder what it is. Like, besides it's something heavier in Xanax. You think just like large quantities of Xanax, and maybe we eat two.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I said, think about how zooed I was when we got on our flight to here from the States with our family and our dog, and we were moving, and I took a bunch of your Xannies and drank a bunch of wine, and I was like, everything's fine.
SPEAKER_02That is my favorite flight prep. It's a half a Xanax and two glasses of wine.
SPEAKER_01It is couldn't recommend it enough. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh that the Mallory special.
SPEAKER_01I did the Mallory special. Yeah. Double down. I did a double down. Ooh. Hit me again. Hit me again. We got a long plate. I got a I got a dog with me on this plate. I gotta. But yeah, no, Manda was in another fucking dimension.
SPEAKER_02She was, but she was more there than West.
SPEAKER_01But Wes, okay. Let's start. I I took some notes. Let's let's go. So we opened the top beautiful opening. This is what I want to see. I want to see four-way group calls, five-way group calls. I want to see text messages. I want to see you talking about it. I can see Lindsay finding out in real time. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. Amazing. Loved it. Loved them all calling each other, hearing Mia and Carl, everyone on the phone, all pissed off. Love that so much. Love seeing them get to the reunion set. Where like to get ready, where Amanda and West, I mean, they're medicated before they get out of their caps.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. They're like enormous pants. Yeah. They're in matching streetwear. You know, the Adam Sandler look. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. She's just dressing like him, super crowl. Love a love a tofu girlfriend. So good for you. I guess. She's a sponge.
SPEAKER_02She's absorbing whatever sauce he's putting on. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's but yeah, they're just chilling in the room, man. Just hanging out. Andy. He even said, I feel really zen. You feel zen? You feel good? I'm sorry. Again, I'm gonna give Tom Sanaval fucking credit, man. Tom and Raquel were like, oh, we're nervous. We fucked up. Like we like this, we're not, we're we're ripping cigs. Like, we're gonna.
SPEAKER_02And Amanda's like, I mean, I guess I do feel guilty. And like, I guess I, you know, in her the way she speaks is so frustrating in it. Like, just I guess, yeah, I'm like, I feel like nervous to see Sierra because I feel like guilty.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, oh God, stop saying. I wanted to strangle her after the first 15 minutes. I was texting you, like, I need I need a Xanax because I am so my book. I re-listened to it.
SPEAKER_02I watched it last night. I paid an ungodly price to watch it on Sling last night.
SPEAKER_01No, I had to wait for the Poor People Peacock upload today.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I watched it and then I listened to it again on the drive to work this morning, and I was like, And hearing it uncensored really helps elevate it.
SPEAKER_01I had to like throw my daughter in another room and close the door. I was like, you can come out in an hour. Mommy needs to watch this. Mommy's busy. Mommy needs to watch this full volume full squares, everything.
SPEAKER_02So everybody's looking fantastic. Like everybody's looking fantastic. Of course, Amanda is has jumped on the butter yellow trend because she just googled what's hot right now and threw on butter yellow.
SPEAKER_01Just like our Super Lives and Mormon Wives. Yeah. Butter Butter Yellow. She got the yellow.
SPEAKER_02And I don't like I don't like her dress. I I think she doesn't look good. The rest of them look good. I don't like it. Not just because it's butter yellow, but just because it's I don't know, it's fine.
SPEAKER_01No, she's ugly on the inside, and now she looks ugly on the outside. I love that Lindsay, Kyla's like, Why are you in a uh in a revenge dress? And she was just like, I'm the devil you don't want to know. In her red.
SPEAKER_02She looked amazing. She looked amazing. Phenomenal.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Phenomenal. And KJ admits when they're talking, they were like, Oh, have you talked to Wes? And he was just like, We're not friends anymore. Yeah. Period. And he's like, he came in as Wes' friend. And he was supposed to go to the Yankees game that they got their video canoodling at. And he was like, I was supposed to go to that game. It was a KC game. Yeah. And it didn't go. And they're like, why didn't you go? He's like, because we're not fucking friends anymore. Yeah. Period.
SPEAKER_02End of sentence. Yeah. And I loved that right as we open. And goddamn it, if I don't still sort of like west a little bit, you know?
SPEAKER_01Mallory. So silly. Mallory Elizabeth. He's a silly. Mallory Elizabeth. He's a silly.
SPEAKER_02He's like, oh yeah, I have my sweat pads. You know, I got a box of 50. I've got four on right now. And then he's like, Yeah, so some nudes just dropped me, apparently. That's fun. And they're all like, oh yeah, we've already seen them.
SPEAKER_01Even Lindsay was like, Wes, don't you make me laugh.
SPEAKER_02As they're going like three, two, one cameras, he's like, Yeah, I just saw some nudes. And he looks at Jesse and he goes, Am I hard? And Jesse's like, No, sorry, you're not. And he takes a look at the picture and West goes, Yeah, that's me. I mean, the whole thing was so hilarious. I was dying. It was it was funny.
SPEAKER_01It was funny.
SPEAKER_02It was funny. And I don't know if you've seen the picture. Have you seen it? No, have you? I've seen it. Yeah. Our Gen Z correspondent Katie P had it on her phone and showed it to me in the office, of course.
SPEAKER_01Oh my God. I need to see it. I look, I scoured Reddit for it. Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'll have Gen Z correspondent KDP send it to you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Unofficially, unallegedly, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_02It's hilarious. He just looks like he's just like standing in front of a mirror, like so gross.
SPEAKER_01He's so gross. That was funny. And for anyone who is like, oh, you know, Wes was so quiet and Wes was so off because he found out before the reunion that his cousin like shot his grandma in the head. No, no. He didn't find that out until after.
unknownOkay. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Lest we be confused that he that is his excuse.
SPEAKER_01I don't want to give this man any credit.
SPEAKER_02No, we're we're not giving him nothing.
SPEAKER_01We're not giving him nothing. Okay. We're giving him nothing. What he found out about was that his his little micropine was out there on the internet. That's what I mean.
SPEAKER_02She isn't that little. And it's not that little. It's not as little as you'd think, especially completely flaccid. I'm telling you, I'm sorry. There has to be a way to West apologists. You are you are right now for what I'm saying. I am not supporting other women. I know. I don't call you Amanda 2.0. I know. I'm like over here, like men's rights. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Let's see. Let's give West a chance, everybody.
SPEAKER_02No, I just I get it. I get it because I too love a silly goose. Like I just love a funny guy, and he is a silly goose. So but that's it.
SPEAKER_01Is he a silly goose? Is his behavior silly goose behavior, Mallory? What a hoot. What a hoot. You need to pull your shit together right now.
SPEAKER_02I know. I know. I am an embarrassment.
SPEAKER_01You're an embarrassment.
SPEAKER_02I know. Pull it together. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_01Andrew does great with the intro questions. I do love that in the first few when she's talking when he's talking to Amanda and he's asking her questions. Sierra won't even look at her. Like she won't even look in her direction. Sierra is Sierra is not medicated.
SPEAKER_02Sierra took an Adderall. Sierra is an already slapped in baby. Perfect. She was perfect. Oh my God. Favorite line of the reunion. When he was like, what do you hope to get out of this? And she goes, I guess we'll let them explain before I bury them in the ground under the dirt.
SPEAKER_01I was like, oh, yes. Chills. Chills. Chills. She was locked in. I like that her and Kyle had a little pep talk where she was just, he was just like, I'm not touching alcohol. We're not going to scream. We're not going to get angry. Are you crying? Are you crying over West again? Sorry. Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_02I'm tearing up over what is his little Pete. I'm upset that his peen wasn't as small as I'd hoped it would be.
SPEAKER_01But and she was like, I'm not going to cry. And then she started to apologize, being like, I didn't realize how what what I like that they admitted, there's so much here, is that they got to see all the episodes before this aired. Sometimes they film a reunion and they still haven't seen the last like three or four episodes because they're being edited. But they were all like, we just watched the final two episodes, like the night before, and like how fucked up it is, which it is the last two episodes of this season. I mean, you can if unless you are physically blind, you can see how inappropriate Amanda and West are.
SPEAKER_02100%.
SPEAKER_01And she's just like, I didn't realize I didn't see it in the moment, like how what was happening and how much you were truly just drowning. And he was like, It's okay, it's okay. We got a whole reunion, like we got hours to get through this.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, she was already crying before it started. I felt so bad for her. I mean, I know. She kept it together, man. She felt watered. She did laugh. She came out there and she fucking ate. She did so well. Oh my God, she did so well. And they I hope they get into this, and I think they will more in the next two. But when she said, like, nobody knows who you are, you're a fraud, I was like, that is so true. He plays the all shucks guy. He is taking Tom Schwartz to the another dimension. Yep. You know? And he is not a real person. Like he's a silly goose, but then that's it. But then he's doing all these things in the background and making all these moves. And like, I do think that this was a big fuck you to her from both of them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. As she said and KJ said, he is a fraudulent person. Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I think they did this to hurt her, to humiliate her. He he is still mad that he, Mr. Oshock's white man, got just railed after his first reunion. He is still mad about that. He is still mad at her about that. And he's got to show her who's boss. And I think Amanda's is very simple. She hates how everyone thinks Sierra's so hot and the hottest one on Bravo. And this is her showing, look, I'm hotter than you. That's what it is. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. I mean disgusting. Amanda makes my skin crawl. Everything she said, I was just like, and then Sierra's like, shut the fuck up.
SPEAKER_01I was like, yes, get it. She was just intolerable. So like Andy gets right into it. He's like, hey, we gotta like embrace it. I like that they did that too. Yeah, yeah. You have to. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And they also did, I like too that they led with the leaked audio. So it's like, we're getting this out of the way. You've all heard it already. Like, you know.
SPEAKER_01Don't ask me as it's playing. I'm like, huh, why does it sound familiar? I don't know what they're gonna say. And I'm like, oh my god. It's like, why do I know? Oh, I know this. You can listen to it here on a Kiki Kato. Exactly. It's been out for weeks here. It's almost at 400 downloads, by the way. Born that listens to the episode. Just thank you guys. We love you so much. Yes. Yes. Thank you, everybody who's here for somewhere else. Yes. Um, but yeah, when the leaked audio, and honestly, the leaked audio, I mean, it I thought I was afraid that that was gonna be the best part of the whole reunion. I know, I know. It wasn't it was all I totally agree.
SPEAKER_02That level I totally agree. The whole thing is just and even the stuff that didn't have to do with them was great. Like the whole Ben thing, I thought was super interesting. I liked that. I thought Bailey was right on there with Bailey says two women.
SPEAKER_01Take a breath. Why don't you have a glass of water? I got this. I got this. I'm gonna eviscerate another man.
SPEAKER_02And she looked amazing too. Yeah. I mean, love Bailey. The fits were amazing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Fits were amazing. She read Ben to Filth. She totally every second of it. Yep. He was so freaking angry. And she was right about everything she said. He does like to Repper Man Women. And he did coddle Kyle and West and any guy that would talk to him with kit and gloves. But if it was a woman who said something, including his girlfriend, who she made very clear because he was already trying to be like, Why are you going after Sabrina? And she's like, No, no, no. Sabrina is an angel. I love Sabrina. I don't love the way you treat Sabrina. You're the problem.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_01And then he's like, Well, you when Carl said that, when Carl got angry, you said that was a turn on. She was like, No, no. Carl got angry at a man who was talking poorly to a woman. He was defending a woman. Right. You get angry at women. At women.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it was just a child. Sorry, you can't. I know. And she was, yeah, she was just so ready. She was not flustered. She didn't let him get her off her game. It was just, nope, you're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong.
SPEAKER_01You're wrong, you're a piece of shit. And that was it. You couldn't say anything.
SPEAKER_02And also, like, I'm telling you, I have had so many, I have been on a roller coaster for the last 10 years with the show that is Carl Radke. All right. I know, man. He's adorable. I love him. Oh, he's a dick. I hate him. Oh, I love him again. He's so cute. Oh no. Now he's like drinking too much and being crazy. Oh, now he's just like, meh, kind of boring, boring, boring. Doing this stuff with Lindsay, inappropriate, but whatever. Now he's dumping her, which I like because she was crazy. But then he's like boring, boring, boring. Now I'm like, okay, I think I love you again. Yeah, now I love him.
SPEAKER_01I love him. I love him. He he called it right out. They said one point in the beginning when they were going through all of the Scamanda stuff, and she said something like, you know, Kyle and Sierra, and Sierra was like, Oh, so you can say our names. So you are able to say our names. Yeah, yeah. And they were then they had to get to like, why didn't you say their names in the statement? And Carl, and Carl was just like, Andy asks him, Do you think it was a good PR move to release a statement? And he was like, No, it was absolutely fucking horrible. And if you are going to release a statement, you need to say who it is to. And it would have been to Sierra and Kyle. Otherwise, it's like singing happy birthday and not saying whose birthday it was. Right.
SPEAKER_02Genius. Perfect. Beautiful. And he looks good. He needs to be in pants. Him in those short jean shorts.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's not it.
SPEAKER_01He needs. He looks good. And he took the teeth down.
SPEAKER_02He had shaved them down a little bit. Yeah. Shaved them down a little bit. And that better. The mint suit. That was good. Yeah. Yeah. That was fresh. That was good.
SPEAKER_01And him and Baylor.
SPEAKER_02Kyle were just better. I wish he was too casual. It's very casual street. Yeah, I don't love it. I think he was like going and I wasn't in it. Wes looked like he borrowed his dad's suit. I'm like, are we MC Hammer right now? What is going on?
SPEAKER_01Like he was mute while Amanda was getting eviscerated. And then, like, when they started to transition from Scamanda stuff to, okay, let's talk about other stuff that happened at Summer House and it was a little more like peppy and jovial and funny. And there were so many times the camera cut to Wes giggling, and then Wes would look at Amanda out of the corner of his eye, who was gone from this planet. Who was just like somber face, staring with like a pissed-off look at her face. And then he would like quickly, he'd be like, ha ha, and like quickly go back to like, oh shit, that's right, I'm not supposed to laugh. I'm in trouble. Yeah. And he was Chatty Kathy for the second half. He could have talked about everything, and he was talking about Sierra and him and Sierra and him and whoever and how he felt about Bailey and beep bop boop bop. But anytime it came to them and them going after Amanda. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I think these two dum-dums really thought they were gonna get there. Convince everyone of the timeline, and then everyone was gonna forgive them. Yeah. You know, like that's really as if the timeline were the only issue. And also no one believes you on the timeline anyway. Like we all saw with our own two eyes what happened in June and July.
SPEAKER_01We we saw the season. You can try to say it didn't start till January, February. There's a lot of people.
SPEAKER_02And I hope they didn't have sex till after this statement. Bullshit.
SPEAKER_01Bullshit. They didn't kiss. They said their first kiss was after this brunch where he had first gone to brunch with the bros with Kyle and then left and went to another brunch with just Amanda, and then that is when they kissed. Like, how much more fucked up do you get? I don't understand. I know.
SPEAKER_02But I'll tell you from my days of living in DC pre-kids, a Sunday fun day brunch can go it can last into the wee hours of the morning.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, absolutely. You can double Sunday Fun Day brunch. I mean, that is an absolute possibility. Yeah. I believe that they like they definitely hooked up the brunch.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, that wasn't the first time. Absolutely not. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Because even when we were talking about Andy was going down memory lane of like the Sierra thing, and it seemed from what they were both saying, they hooked up the end of the season and then they kind of continued to hook up after the season into the fall. And then it was kind of like, well, I know we shouldn't, and this isn't gonna, you know, I don't want this to get too romantic because blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And at one point, Andy was like, Amanda, did you know that this was going on between Sierra and Wes during the fall? And Amanda was just stonefaced, no, no, I didn't.
SPEAKER_02I also liked how when Sierra brought up that he was dating somebody else, they were like, Did you know? And she said, Yes, we had a conversation. And Lindsay asked, Did you know before or do you know now? And we didn't get an answer to that question.
SPEAKER_01No. I'm sure they did have a conversation after found out.
SPEAKER_02I just Googled this, and the pictures of Amanda naked in West's apartment were taken on February 28th. Okay, so that is what two days before the brunch where they allegedly first kissed?
unknownCome on.
SPEAKER_01Get out of here. Get out of here. Nobody believes it. And Carl, they were all screaming at them, like, why are you still lying? Why? Like, this is what we're here to do. Why are you guys still making up a bullshit timeline? We don't believe you. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. We don't believe you. And Mia being like with our own eyes. You left your marriage because he wasn't treating you well to go be one of West's side chicks. Like, that's so embarrassing.
SPEAKER_01It still hit. It still hit even after that audio was done. I've heard it soon again.
SPEAKER_02And it's yeah, seeing it live. I know, because seeing Amanda's reaction was everything. Yeah, that one, that one cut deep.
SPEAKER_01As it should have.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. As it should have.
SPEAKER_01That one cut deep. Yeah. I mean, let's talk about Mia. What a fucking angel.
SPEAKER_02Angel. She looks a beautiful angel. I am sad for her that she broke up with the guy, but it sounds like that was what was best for her.
SPEAKER_01He didn't seem that great. And they didn't even really see each other. And it seemed like he was just married to his restaurants. She could do better. She can do better.
SPEAKER_02I was just gonna say, I recently heard that Michael B. Jordan was seen with a Kardashian, which is upsetting because I thought he was gonna date Sierra. Yeah. I know. I think a Kendall or a Kylie or something.
SPEAKER_01Oh God. I thought they're both spoken for. Isn't Kendall with I don't know, that skinny white actor kid and Kylie or Kent Kylie's.
SPEAKER_02Hold on. Let me maybe it wasn't a Kardashian. It was somebody adjacent. A Kardashian adjacent. Mallory's on it. She's googling. Chloe. Chloe. No, AI generated. Okay, we're good.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Wow.
SPEAKER_02Okay, grandma.
unknownGod, I keep it keeps happening.
SPEAKER_01Why?
SPEAKER_02What do you mean if he started on AI? That's a whole other problem. I know. I know. Well, apparently it works because I fucking believe everything.
SPEAKER_01All right, so he's still available. So the team is still alive. Sorry. Okay, we're good. We're good. Back to it. Mia's an angel. I love Mia, KJ, and Sierra so much. I loved all the talk. I mean, we can talk about KJ quick. All my note was just KJ with a heart. Like being diagnosed with bipolar, being diagnosed with bipolar disorder is a big one. And that is one you do have to take care of and medicate. And I'm glad he's getting the care he needs. And the fact he said that Mia and Sierra were there for him in the hospital every day. And my husband Michael was like, when does Sierra have time to do all this? What is she? And I was like, because she's a good person. And because you prioritize people that mean the most to you. And she is finding the time to be there for these very important people to her. Not like Amanda, who wouldn't even return a call when Sierra was like, I've been trying to hang out with you all summer. I tried to hang out with you all fall. You didn't return my calls. You didn't call me back, but you had plenty of time to fucking hang out with West because you're a piece of shit and a bad person.
SPEAKER_02Well, and it's, you know, some of us go to Milan and our husbands go to the hospital and we say, Good luck. Honey, good luck.
SPEAKER_01You prioritize the important people in your life. Yes. And the important people, this guy. We're looking at them.
SPEAKER_02Two thumbs, important.
SPEAKER_01They weren't going anywhere.
SPEAKER_02They'll be there when we get back. Oh, yes, that's a story for another time. But both our husbands combusted upon our returns.
SPEAKER_01They spontaneously combusted. Spontaneously combusted.
SPEAKER_02Got off the plane. Yep. That's right. That's another podcast. Stay tuned for that. Yeah, different, different podcast. But yeah, no, I know. And I thought it was great that KJ was sharing that because I think a lot of people can identify with it. And I think it's good to be like, you know, you could have everything going for you, this great girlfriend, you're on the show, everything, but like still, you know, your mental health could be in in bad shape. So, you know, I think it's it's good. I do hope that he takes care of his mental health and that the show doesn't make it worse. It sounds like probably a lot of this stuff with all the friend group is not the best. So I don't know. Yeah, I hope he takes care of himself.
SPEAKER_01I know, and I don't think anyone's ever said, you know, it would be really good for your mental health getting on reality TV.
SPEAKER_02Getting on reality TV, or in Amanda's case, getting back on Instagram.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't think it's great, but I do love KJ. So I'd like to see more of them three. And I think especially as like a black man, what a great like you don't have enough out there on public platforms advocating for like mental health and really being very vulnerable. So I give them lots of kudos. Then we we bring okay. Have you seen the we bring out Levi? Have you seen the that it's not even rumors, it's just like a stupid, it's like the rumor we had growing up that Marilyn Manson removed his ribs to like suck his own dick. Right, right, yeah. You remember that one, of course. Of course. So there's like a classic. Still semi-believable. Right. I mean, I kind of believe it. Yeah. But there's a a fictional tale going on the internet that Levi was just Bailey's imaginary friend for the whole season.
SPEAKER_02Crash for you. Oh my god, I love it. I read one that Levi was Bailey from last season. You know, the Bailey from last season that was also there for like yeah, you're right. We only ever saw her together with her in the bedroom.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and sometimes she wouldn't be there at all. Sometimes she would. No one ever talked about her. And people were like, is she just Bailey's imaginary friend? Like, is that what we're talking about?
SPEAKER_02I know when they're like, Wes didn't text Levi an apology. It's like, all right, come on.
SPEAKER_01Mallory was like, I'm gonna, as a Wes apologist.
SPEAKER_02As a West apologist, I'm sorry, I'm on his side on that one. That's ridiculous. How could you not text Levi? Levi.
SPEAKER_01Not Levi. Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It is fucked up that he did not text KJ. Who came KJ? Okay, all right. KJ came on as his friend. Yes. Yes. And was supposed to be like one of his best friends coming into this. And he brought him into the show. Okay. Wow.
SPEAKER_02Was he how close? Was this like a I just met you and you'd be good for the show and remained? No, they're both from Kansas City. Okay, so I'm from Houston. I'd meet people from Houston. That doesn't mean I've been friends with them my whole life.
SPEAKER_01No, he said he was like one of his good friends. They came on as like buddies. Not like Jesse, where they met on the show. They came on as well.
SPEAKER_02Summerhouse stars West Wilson and KJ Dillard have been close friends for over a year.
unknownFuck off.
SPEAKER_01I mean you and Wes can ride into the sunset, Mallory. You're such a pick me girl.
SPEAKER_02I think I'm oh wow. I've never been called that in my life. Wow. Bethany, wow. Wow.
SPEAKER_00Bethany, wow.
SPEAKER_01You see his flas of penis one time and you said, you know what?
SPEAKER_02I said okay. Give me some of that. Oh my God. I'm just saying, I I don't like what he did, but I also don't think he has to apologize to the entire cast. It it really just affected two people. I will give you Levi.
unknownI'll give you a pass up.
SPEAKER_02I'll see you, Levi, and I'll raise you a KJ. No. KJ didn't. Well, because they've been really close friends for nearly a year.
SPEAKER_01Maybe being like, hey, sorry if I didn't anything to like jeopardize your job, the show. Like Okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, fair.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Sorry, this is all a mess. And if you're getting pulled into it, sorry, bro. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Levi, you're already not gonna be returning anyway.
SPEAKER_01Like also when KJ's like, yeah, I was in the hospital because I tried to fucking kill myself.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, no, I know that's true.
SPEAKER_01You maybe could have reached out then.
SPEAKER_02Now that that I agree with. Okay. All right, here we go. She's back. She's back.
unknownShe's back.
SPEAKER_02I can get behind that. But to apologize about the other stuff, yes. If job-related things, yes. But not to be like, KJ, I am personally sorry that I hooked up with Amanda. Like, no.
SPEAKER_01Can we talk about how we not talked about it? Maybe because I blacked out when it happened. Amanda rolling her fucking eyes at Sierra and then telling her to go fuck off, as I just told you to do.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I know. That was insane. Within the first five minutes. Should never leave your mouth towards her. Don't you you watch your mouth when you're talking to her.
SPEAKER_01You watch your goddamn mouth. Watch your mouth. I screamed. I screamed at myself. I was like, you know, fuck off. What? How dare you? How dare you? How dare you?
SPEAKER_00Am I just supposed to be single and celibate until the divorces signed?
SPEAKER_02And Sierra was exactly right. You walk away. You think you're getting feelings for somebody you shouldn't? You walk away. It takes a long time for feelings to develop like that. That it doesn't happen overnight. So you take a step back. Say, whoo, this is starting to feel inappropriate. I'm stepping back.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Yeah. You don't spend more time with them and double down. You say, hey, I think we actually probably need to spend less time together because this is crossing a line that I don't want it to cross. And my friendship with Sierra is worth more. Yep. That's it. Yep. And even Amanda was like, what should I have done? Should I have said, you know, I I think I'm getting like some feelings for West and I don't know what's happening, and like I'm I don't know how to navigate this, and I'm really sorry. And like should have been honest from the beginning. And it was like, Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Any of that would have been fine. But also like you should have just not done it.
SPEAKER_01Just don't do it. Don't do it. She did read through text messages with Amanda when the like the rumors started hitting like Dumas on the internet and stuff back in, I think it was January. And she was lying through her teeth. Lying through her fucking teeth. And even those text messages, she was already putting herself in the victim role, being like, oh my God, it's so crazy. People out there are psycho. I can't even leave my house. I can't go do anything without people making up stuff. Me, me, me, me, me. Poor me. Like, no.
SPEAKER_02It's just muscle memory. This victim. It's like she cannot, she can't pull herself out of it. Like, that's all she knows. It's all she knows is the victim. Victim, victim, victim. Yeah. Wild. Yep. Yep. I with my best friend's ex, and I am the victim somehow. It's unbelievable.
SPEAKER_01And like Lindsay called Wes out at the end. At first, Lindsay was getting digmatized like you did, and being like, Oh my god, you're so funny. And how do you joke matized? Jokmatized. There you go. She was getting jokmatized. She was like, You're such a silly goose. And then at the end, she was like, Fuck you, Wes. Because this is what you do. You use women, you climb up, you're a clout chaser, you climb up the ladder, and then you dispose of them, just like you're gonna dispose of Amanda. This is what you're gonna do, because it's never gonna work out. And she was like, Because you're a fucking little toddler. Yeah. And all the boys on the other side of the couch were like, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02Or when Sierra was like, Oh, yeah, I actually think she's perfect for him because she has no backbone and like won't tell him. Oh, and even but Kyle was like, Oh, that was a little mean.
SPEAKER_01Well, that was amazing because she was just like, You need someone who's never gonna hold you accountable, it's gonna let you do whatever you want, and she has no fucking backbone. She loves to be walked all over, she's gonna, she needs to be with a man who's gonna be the star of the show. And she, like, I mean, she cut her to the core, where like Amanda started tearing up, rightfully so. And like Kyle, that was such an interesting moment because Kyle's immediate reaction was just like, oh, wait, like that was really fucking harsh. And then she came out with the best line and was like, She's your wife, she's not my fucking wife. And then Kyle at least took a millisecond to say, you know what? You are entitled to your feelings. I'm sorry that just like upset me, but like you do you. Because that was a backhanded insult to Kyle. It was a twofer. She was like, Zero was like a ninja. Yeah, she was like, I got you. I got you, and I got you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but it's true. She wants she now, she's gonna be like, Oh, Wes did this to me, and I'm sad, and no one cares. No, no one's gonna care. Nobody's gonna care. And I've I'm seeing Kyle in a different light, too. I think he actually did care about her a lot more than she cared about him.
SPEAKER_01Agreed. I think she was with him for the show and for same as Wes. Maybe they are perfect for each other for clout, for fame, for lover boy. Because she knew she wasn't gonna be on that show without him. There was not a chance. And I think when he cheated on her the first time, it was like a relief to her of just like, okay, like I now I don't need to, I can do whatever I find.
SPEAKER_02I pretend to like you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yep, yep. I watched the first episode of The City. Very good. And she's like, the therapist said, We hate each other. I'm like, you do hate each other. You very clearly hate each other. Or you hate him at least. Yeah, and I think he probably hates her by this point because everywhere he goes, it's alone. She won't do anything with him. Yeah, she won't leave the house. She just sits there around the clock, but like won't get help. Allegedly has mental health issues, but isn't doing anything about it, just sitting there getting high around the clock, living like a disgusting filth ball. Like you should they show their apartment. It's disgusting.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, I couldn't. I could never. Yeah. I could never. I think Kyle definitely loved her more than she loved him. I think he really did love her, even though he cheated on her. And I think now he hates her because he resents her.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I think if she had given him back, it's been so awful to him for so long. Yeah. Like, yeah, he cheated on her, whatever. But I mean, I'm sorry, at some point you married him.
SPEAKER_01Whatever. Let the boys do what the boys are gonna do.
SPEAKER_02The boys do what the boys are gonna do. But I'm sorry, there is a huge difference between looking out and truly not knowing if you made out with somebody or not, and like having sex with your best friend's boy ex-boyfriend multiple times than starting a relationship with them. Like those are not the same.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and he and Lindsay said it in reference to Sierra and Wes, but also a double whammy was like, what's more intimate, West? Having sex with someone once or like an intimate or an emotional connection, like an emotional relationship. And he was like, Well, an emotional relationship. And it was like, exactly.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01Like it doesn't matter when the first time was you guys had sex. And someone, one of the guys said it when they were chit-chatting in the beginning too was like, we could see how, oh Carl, how inappropriate West was with Amanda. And like you don't touch a married woman the way he was touching her all season. Yeah, you don't touch anybody like that that you're not interested in sexually. It's crazy. But it was an amazing first part. I'm so excited for the others. I feel like we haven't even scratched the surface, and it's not gonna be not gonna get like a filler part two. Yep. Yeah, I think it's gonna be solid.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. It was amazing. I'm gonna watch it again. Oh god, I know. I know. I think I am too. Because also like the the episode I watched last night was not the extended. So there was there were things on uh the peacock version that like were not didn't air last night.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I wonder what was because I've only watched that, so I wonder what was on there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so like like the whole first part wasn't on there, like with the phones and everything.
SPEAKER_01That was oh really, yeah. Oh, that was the best part.
SPEAKER_02Oh, so it just started when they were like in the chair to the Yeah, well, yeah, and they didn't do like a lot of the entry, like they showed a little bit of them before they're not.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I loved that they did that. Yeah, that was like definitely so good. Yeah, if you don't have it on Peacock, I mean highly suggest you do have to wait a whole fucking day after it airs, which really sucks. But if you're rich enough to have both, this economy but yeah, you're hearing it without the sensors and having the extra footage is really really worth it.
SPEAKER_02Really good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I can't wait next week. It's gonna be so I can't wait. I can't wait. We'll be here. Maybe we'll recap that one with friend of the show KDP. We'll see. Exactly. Yes. But we do have a special KDP episode coming up because our girl won Wheel of Fortune.
SPEAKER_02Wasn't just on it, she won it.
SPEAKER_01She won that shit.
SPEAKER_02Yes. And we just wanted to. So I don't know how much she could tell us. Oh, does she really? She also she said she's got a lot to say about Summerhouse, too. So we'll get some thoughts on that.
SPEAKER_01All right. So maybe more Summerhouse than Wheel of Fortune, but I really want to. Yeah, we'll hear what whatever she can tell us, we'll take. Whatever she can tell us. But you know, good news to KDP, friend of the show. Yes. Well done, guys. Yes. Going on a cruise at some point. I know. Yeah. Hopefully not a Hontavirus one. Right, totally. Do is that still we left for Milan and we came back and I haven't heard anything about Hontavirus.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I've moved on spiritually. Uh I forgot. I honestly forgot about it. Maybe sell the cruise, KDP, you know?
SPEAKER_01Trade that in for something.
SPEAKER_02Trade it in for cash price.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly. Extra money. Yeah. We'll talk about it. We'll talk to her about it. Yep.
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SPEAKER_01I don't think that one made it up number before.
SPEAKER_02Fair enough.
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